Top Stories (The Argonaut news paper)
Venice: Residents say RVs parking overnight are turning
some areas into a campground
Lining parts of Rose Avenue, west of Lincoln Boulevard in Venice,
are vehicles that some neighbors say they've seen parked on the street for as
long as days at a time.
To some neighbors, those stationary vehicles and others on
Rose and other neighborhood streets west of Lincoln Boulevard are turning the
areas into a campground.
"Venice isn't a campground," said Richard Myers, a
Venice Neighborhood Council member who lives on Rose Avenue.
David Busch wrote on Oct 6, 2007 10:47 AM:
" Renter's in
Venice, look out your window: that "homeless" person, that Rv, is the
best rent law you have. As soon as landlords and real estate developers can
advertise Venice as a "virtually-gated community; where unlike the rest of
LA, we've found a way to kick out all poor on the streets," Where do you
think your rent will go next? How soon before they are looking for new excuses
to evict you too --so they can up rents to the "new market rates."
There are at least 20,000 people west of Lincoln, and only about 100 RV's
camping there on the any given day. Landlord interests are the very ones that
have pushed for the increased parking restrictions that are making it harder
and harder to park. Now they want you to support their newest overnight parking
rules that will not give you a new parking space here. They will entirely move
you out. They will just force you to move out as soon as they can raise the
rents as a result of this massive new gentrification, west of Lincoln, they are
planning with this "resident" only parking. There is a way to stop
gentrification. Keep Venice free. If you want relief, demand a removal of the
restrictions they themselves put up in the last few years to push RV's off Washington.
J. Silver wrote on Sep 26, 2007 2:00 AM:
With needing a high FICO score to even be considered for just an apartment on
the westside area of Los Angeles. No wonder people are trying to do their best
to live with some kind of roof over their heads. If there was afordable
housing, and fair landlords that would give people a chance, and more jobs to
be able to pay for the rent. This would be little or no problem. "
Anne Raine wrote on Sep 15, 2007 12:33
The problem with RV parking is also conspicuous in the area around Washington
Boulevard west of Lincoln. It doesn't make sense to require people to pay for
parking to visit the beach for the day (referring to the public parking lot
adjacent to Venice Pier) and allow vacation homes to park overnight for free. I
am not talking about the homeless here, I am talking about huge luxury RV's
that descend upon this neighborhood on summer week-ends or 3 day holidays and,
indeed, turn it into a campground. Even Pasadena, for the once a year Rose
Parade, has restricted parking for RV's. "
Peggy Lee Kennedy wrote on Sep 13, 2007 7:22 PM:
I think my quotes in the article are out of context. I made a public comment at
the July 2007 neighborhood council just after Chris Williams, who called the
people living in RVs a bunch of "Skitzos" and dangerous criminals. I
thought that was far less than humane and just not true. Many people become
"homeless" simply because we are having an affordable housing crisis
and this is something to keep in mind! So many of us are just one paycheck
away. But here are a few stats to chew on from the LA Housing Services
Coalition... United States Homeless Statistics: Vets constitute 40% of the
homeless population. 1 in every 5 homeless persons has a severe or persistent
mental illness. 25% of the homeless nationwide are employed. Children under the
age of 18 account for 39% of the homeless population. 42% of these are under
the age of 5. 43% of the homeless population are women; 40% of these women are
unaccompanied. 22% of homeless women claim domestic abuse as reason for
homelessness. 25% of these claim to have been abused within the past year.
Families with children comprise 33% of the homeless population. "
WR wrote on Sep 6, 2007 1:20 PM:
It's hard to feel pity for Venice residents when they complain about the
"nomads," "free-living," "flower children,"
"don't want to work" crowd living in motor homes and RV's around the
Venice Area. After all, Venice has been an anti-establishment, anti-government,
free-will place since the 60's. You reap what you sow. What other place in Los
Angeles is the perfect gathering place for these "mobile
residents"??? Venice, of course. As another writer said, you don't find
these types of problems in Pacific Palisades, Palos Verdes Estates, or Malibu.
The rule of law is respected at these places and the residents DEMAND action on
the part of the police and government representatives. The law has always been
eschewed and ingored in Venice and until that changes, complaints will be
nothing but hot air. Enjoy! "
Troy wrote on Sep 4, 2007 11:28 AM:
"These are Venetians just like us" Really? I don't recall the fire
sale on beat up RV's in the neighborhood in the last few years. Maybe I would
have bought one myself and lived on Rose also. It would probably be cheaper
than the rent I pay now. Living in your vehicle on the street does not make you
a resident no matter how long you have been doing it. I'm tired of fighting for
parking places on little Main street with the dozen guys that are living in
their vans. To point out the obvious, if you need access to the beach at 2am
you are up to no good. "
Paul T wrote on Aug 31, 2007 11:28
Pacific Palisades is also in LA City but does not have this problem. Venice can
not be the impromptu camp ground for all of Los Angeles. I have seen able
bodied young men living in those campers for whom the carefree live seem to
suite them. They have satellite TV, generators and apparently enough money to
buy beer and cigarettes. [Others] can invite these unfortunates to park in
their driveway and use their restroom if they want to help. There are very
sound reasons to restrict lodging in vehicles and those laws should be
enforced. paul "
Dorian Nguyen wrote on Aug 31, 2007 1:18 PM:
Did not see in the RV parking story about the diesel and gasoline generators
that run on the street or sidewalk, belching fumes and vibrating with noise
pollution as well. If you get by the 6 bikes tied to one signpost, don't trip
on the cables. Listen for the blaring music and TV (some satellite). Try
entering/exiting the CVS lot with RVs blocking lines-of-sight. Saw a bicycler
and baby in stroller almost hit by vehicles trying to make a turn near RVs. On
'Little" Main near Rose, an RV parks and runs via electrical cords laying
on the sidewalk and street. I rent, not own, and try to walk, leaving my car in
a paid monthly parking spot. Venice is polluted, but the RV parade continues
Steve Larson wrote on Aug 30, 2007 2:50 PM:
This situation is not just on the West side of Lincoln Blvd. Morningside Way,
Glyndon Ave., Penmar Ave. and Lake Street to name a few have RVs, Campers,
buses and commercial trucks lining the streets day and night. They are not
there for days but often weeks and months until someone calls the LA Abandoned
Cars Hotline. The safety and well being of the tax paying property owners and
citizens paying rent are jeopardized every time these vehicles are allowed to
be left on the streets with stealth people living out of them. If these
interlopers are confronted most will profane and threaten you. It is not a good
situation. Yes, these are desparate people, but they belong in a controlled and
monitored area such as Dockweiler RV Park. Mark Antonio Grant and the LAPD
solutions are always get street parking restrictions. Why must local residents
have parking permits to park in front of their own homes, when is is so obvious
that these types of vehicles do not belong on residential streets. They are a
blight and eyesore. More parking permit zones just moves the problem to another
area of Venice until the local residents can stand it no longer. There should
be a law that RVs, Campers, Buses, and Commerical Trucks should not be allowed
overnight parking without a permit and a valid reason. This would put the onus
of the problem where it belongs with those who want to usurp the general rights
of those who have to pay to live in Venice. "
Barbara Peck wrote on Aug 30, 2007 1:27 PM:
While it is true that some RV people are creating a nuisance with their various
activities it pales in comparison to the developers who are rapidly taking over
Venice, the high cost of renting or buying a property, increased traffic
congestion, men urinating on the sidewalks when leaving the bars on Abbot
Kinney late at night, commercial vending engulfing the Free Speech Zone on
Venice boardwalk, and to cap it all the new "green" hotel that is
planned for Abbot Kinney at Brooks. (Not to mention the crude statue at Venice
circle which is awkwardly placed and totally lacking in artistic integrity.)
There's plenty to complain about in Venice and the RV dwellers are the handiest
targets for retribution. Isn't it time we got our priorities in order instead
of blaming the victims of gentrification for our problems? "